I’ve been trying to figure this out for over a year now.

This is my latest concept that I’ll try to make.

What do you all think?

  • Jeena@piefed.jeena.net
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    22 hours ago

    I like the webring idea but I would hope finding the right server would be automated, clicking through thousands of servers sounds exhausting.

    • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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      18 hours ago

      I like the webring idea

      Really? It wasn’t even really even popular when it was popular. Search engines quickly became a better way to find things. webrings were always broken.

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      22 hours ago

      The details are in the work, but there is consideration for enabling a preference to automatically select the fastest server.

      I’ve also considered making servers announce load reports, telling other servers how much load they are under, that way a server can be selected via both fastest and least under-load.

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      22 hours ago

      This might even be an appropriate use for AI (maybe even running in-browser for privacy). I imagine something that reads your prompt and auto-populates a few rings to search. You review and edit the suggested rings, then click search.

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    21 hours ago

    no one can index exponential amounts of data, nevermind the predatory SEO and AI.

    Google is. The NSA almost undoubtedly is. A bunch of other governments are. AI companies probably are. Meta probably is.

    When a user wants to search something up, they first search for a topic in web-rings, and then they select that web-ring.

    From a usability perspective, that doesn’t feel great. How does a user find the first web ring search engine? What if they don’t want that multi step process? How do users avoid predatory web rings that are trying to sell them stuff? How does this compete with existing search?

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      11 hours ago

      How does a user find the first web ring search engine?

      The implication is that such functionality is bundled into this search engine.

      What if they don’t want that multi step process?

      Hard thing, but what are a few steps toavoiding AI spam results?

      How do users avoid predatory web rings that are trying to sell them stuff?

      That’s a moderation issue, alluded to being a problem that should be figured out separate to figuring out this web-ring federation.

      How does this compete with existing search?

      Existing on the sidelines and possibly leaching off DDG users who want a less bing dependent search.

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        5 hours ago

        What if they don’t want that multi step process?

        Hard thing, but what are a few steps to avoiding AI spam results?

        There’s nothing inherent to this proposal that avoids spam or SEO. You describe it as a “moderation issue” and then mark it as out of scope.

        If avoiding AI spam or SEO sites is a feature of this proposal, then it should be addressed directly.

  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    But, even in those early days of the 90s, it was known that there was no way for a search engine to be able to index an exponentially increasing amount of data.

    And then lots of people did just that for 2 decades.

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