• InvaderDJ@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, I don’t know how any end user who doesn’t understand IT and wasn’t around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don’t have the information or experience to make the claim.

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      1 year ago

      I’ve been using the intermet since 2003 and have seen no difference except when cloudfare breaks.

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            1 year ago

            That’s the thing about not respecting you – I don’t value any of your opinions.

            Being so willing to pontificate about something you know so little about, I don’t think any one will value your opinion in this thread. At least, they shouldn’t lol.

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        1 year ago

        Yes, the internet is much bigger than it was in 2003, and it needs more complex protective tools. The fact that you haven’t noticed cloudflare when it is working is a sign that it is, well, working.

        And the fact that your favorite sites aren’t down more often is yet another sign. Downtime due to DDOS attacks alone would be so much greater without cloudflare than downtime due to cloudflare currently is. Your perspective is a pure lack of knowledge and an excess of confirmation bias.

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        1 year ago

        Have you ever self hosted a website? Was that a modern website, or just a bunch of text? Are you experienced with uptime SLAs on multiple services? Have you ever had to deal with a DDOS attack?

        There are lots of things that Cloudflare does that requires experience and knowledge to notice or understand. And it isn’t even the biggest single point of failure when it comes to the Internet. When AWS has an outage for instance there is a huge chunk of the Internet that goes down.

        There are problems with the centralization of the Internet. But this happened for a reason, and it has been so long and these services have been so reliable that people don’t even realize what it was like before.

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          1 year ago

          I can answer that for you! No. They have never self hosted a website. In fact, I doubt they have ever connected to a website via any protocol beyond http/https. I’d bet a paycheck on it.

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      1 year ago

      Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?

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          1 year ago

          Well no but I heard other people say it’s bad and give some half reasons why. Why do I need to understand the tech if I just want to be mad about it? /s

          Fr though cloudflare is a giant, but they give some hardcore protections to little guys like me. If they ever were bad to me I’d switch to akamai or something. Plus if we’re going to talk about monopolizing the web let’s talk about Google, Azure, and AWS.

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        Using cloudflare is more reliable than using your own stuff which is still an option that nobody chooses anymore because it’s better to choose cloudflare or something similar.

        I’m going to go ahead and assume you don’t work with internet security in any way, have no experience in web development, and have never attempted to provide web application services to more people than you can count on your fingers, but if you had, cloudflare is mana from heaven.

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          This persons main connection to the internet is hentai.

          Just… save your braincells.

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        1 year ago

        While that can indeed be considered an issue, the idea that this somehow makes the internet objectively worse is debatable.