• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    21 days ago

    But we’re not “killing” every person who benefits, literally or figuratively. We’re continuing to buy their diamonds (pay them in money and data) while they continue to mine (train new models, use copyrighted material).

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      21 days ago

      Agreed.

      But the entire point I’m making is there’s nothing wrong with the diamonds, the problem is with the method and the people profiting from it.

      You were saying the diamonds were not fine by dint of origin. I’m saying let’s right the wrong and then use the diamonds.

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        It’s not a perfect analogy, models ape the work of artists and take their jobs; it’s like if the diamond was bloody, and as long as it existed, the miner’s family not only didn’t get compensated for the loss but we’re also prevented from getting jobs themselves.

        We’re not righting the wrong, were making the wrongs even worse. At some point you have to just burn the whole thing down.

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        21 days ago

        Okay, so again, no new machine learning ever, unless you can prove it’s done without environmental impact or affecting peoples’ right to a dignified existence. That’s the wrong righted. That’s what you’re advocating. Am I misunderstanding?